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	<title>Comments on: Thoughts about ISPs, privacy and GNUnet</title>
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		<title>By: stargrave</title>
		<link>http://blogs.fsfe.org/stargrave/archives/47/comment-page-1#comment-49</link>
		<dc:creator>stargrave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 07:02:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do everything you wish. No problems.</description>
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		<title>By: Polprav</title>
		<link>http://blogs.fsfe.org/stargrave/archives/47/comment-page-1#comment-48</link>
		<dc:creator>Polprav</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 00:52:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello from Russia!
Can I quote a post &quot;No teme&quot;  in your blog with the link to you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello from Russia!<br />
Can I quote a post &#8220;No teme&#8221;  in your blog with the link to you?</p>
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		<title>By: foo</title>
		<link>http://blogs.fsfe.org/stargrave/archives/47/comment-page-1#comment-45</link>
		<dc:creator>foo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2009 12:06:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>stargrave:

I didn&#039;t mean to imply that GNUnet didn&#039;t have the features that I
listed. I thought it was obvious that the drawback that makes popular
adoption as an alternative to bittorrent impossible is speed. With that
in mind I listed some small improvements with Bittorrent that would
greatly improve it from a robustness point of view.

Regarding &quot;Commentary about files&quot;: If you go to a torrent tracker
there is normally a &quot;submit comment for this torrent&quot; type of feature
where people are giving feedback about a file, for example, alerting
others if it is a fake, noting if some feature it missing, juding
quality, ... etc. In my view this is *the* valuable feature that is
making users gravitate to these indexing sites with their associated
risks (i.e. one site, one point of failure).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>stargrave:</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t mean to imply that GNUnet didn&#8217;t have the features that I<br />
listed. I thought it was obvious that the drawback that makes popular<br />
adoption as an alternative to bittorrent impossible is speed. With that<br />
in mind I listed some small improvements with Bittorrent that would<br />
greatly improve it from a robustness point of view.</p>
<p>Regarding &#8220;Commentary about files&#8221;: If you go to a torrent tracker<br />
there is normally a &#8220;submit comment for this torrent&#8221; type of feature<br />
where people are giving feedback about a file, for example, alerting<br />
others if it is a fake, noting if some feature it missing, juding<br />
quality, &#8230; etc. In my view this is *the* valuable feature that is<br />
making users gravitate to these indexing sites with their associated<br />
risks (i.e. one site, one point of failure).</p>
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		<title>By: Markus</title>
		<link>http://blogs.fsfe.org/stargrave/archives/47/comment-page-1#comment-44</link>
		<dc:creator>Markus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2009 08:41:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@deck-harr: Most users are going to download the same files anyway. And are searching for the same keywords. Searches are cached. --&gt; Fast search results.. + You can create a directory lets say &quot;FSF PDF Documents&quot; users only have to store the link to this directory and are always getting the latest files --&gt; No need to search</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@deck-harr: Most users are going to download the same files anyway. And are searching for the same keywords. Searches are cached. &#8211;&gt; Fast search results.. + You can create a directory lets say &#8220;FSF PDF Documents&#8221; users only have to store the link to this directory and are always getting the latest files &#8211;&gt; No need to search</p>
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		<title>By: stargrave</title>
		<link>http://blogs.fsfe.org/stargrave/archives/47/comment-page-1#comment-43</link>
		<dc:creator>stargrave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2009 07:18:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hm... I do not see any problems with mass-sending searches over the network. It is not resource-wasting and only a question of time: maybe GNUnet eats too much network bandwidth and CPU, but after a year or too - it will be too cheap.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hm&#8230; I do not see any problems with mass-sending searches over the network. It is not resource-wasting and only a question of time: maybe GNUnet eats too much network bandwidth and CPU, but after a year or too &#8211; it will be too cheap.</p>
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		<title>By: stargrave</title>
		<link>http://blogs.fsfe.org/stargrave/archives/47/comment-page-1#comment-42</link>
		<dc:creator>stargrave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2009 07:14:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GNUnet is decentralized. AFAIK it uses DHT too. Searches are decentralized too. Commentary about files - do you mean some informatic meta-data for them? It is supported too. DHT is not a protocol/standard part of BitTorrent unfortunately.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GNUnet is decentralized. AFAIK it uses DHT too. Searches are decentralized too. Commentary about files &#8211; do you mean some informatic meta-data for them? It is supported too. DHT is not a protocol/standard part of BitTorrent unfortunately.</p>
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		<title>By: Deck-Harr</title>
		<link>http://blogs.fsfe.org/stargrave/archives/47/comment-page-1#comment-41</link>
		<dc:creator>Deck-Harr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2009 02:09:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GNUnet doesn&#039;t scale! So guys - seriously - don&#039;t use it or it will slow down!
http://en.open-bash.org/index.php?id=21&amp;session=0&amp;no=80</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GNUnet doesn&#8217;t scale! So guys &#8211; seriously &#8211; don&#8217;t use it or it will slow down!<br />
<a href="http://en.open-bash.org/index.php?id=21&#038;session=0&#038;no=80" rel="nofollow">http://en.open-bash.org/index.php?id=21&#038;session=0&#038;no=80</a></p>
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		<title>By: foo</title>
		<link>http://blogs.fsfe.org/stargrave/archives/47/comment-page-1#comment-39</link>
		<dc:creator>foo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Sep 2009 21:08:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A solution that would be much more readily adopted is to decentralize
and de-hierachalize. DHT already does that for the tracker. What is
left is to decentralize search and, more importantly, &quot;rating&quot;. The
first of these was solved long ago by other P2P systems. Why it was
abandoned in bittorrent is baffling. The second is the slightly more
difficult one: We need a decentralized, spam-resistant way of rating
files and provide commentary about them. Bitzi did this poorly in a
non-decentralized way. I think the absence of such a system is the
real barrier to &quot;true&quot; decentralized P2P.

Of course this does not solve the anonymity problem --- an important
problem, to be sure. But it does deal with the particular threat model
that motivated your example.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A solution that would be much more readily adopted is to decentralize<br />
and de-hierachalize. DHT already does that for the tracker. What is<br />
left is to decentralize search and, more importantly, &#8220;rating&#8221;. The<br />
first of these was solved long ago by other P2P systems. Why it was<br />
abandoned in bittorrent is baffling. The second is the slightly more<br />
difficult one: We need a decentralized, spam-resistant way of rating<br />
files and provide commentary about them. Bitzi did this poorly in a<br />
non-decentralized way. I think the absence of such a system is the<br />
real barrier to &#8220;true&#8221; decentralized P2P.</p>
<p>Of course this does not solve the anonymity problem &#8212; an important<br />
problem, to be sure. But it does deal with the particular threat model<br />
that motivated your example.</p>
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		<title>By: Sergey Matveev (stargrave) 's status on Saturday, 05-Sep-09 19:32:25 UTC - Identi.ca</title>
		<link>http://blogs.fsfe.org/stargrave/archives/47/comment-page-1#comment-38</link>
		<dc:creator>Sergey Matveev (stargrave) 's status on Saturday, 05-Sep-09 19:32:25 UTC - Identi.ca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Sep 2009 19:32:39 +0000</pubDate>
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