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	<title>Comments for Being Fellow #952 of FSFE</title>
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	<description>My findings in Free Software</description>
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		<title>Comment on Preparations for !FOSDEM (part 2) by Henrik Sandklef</title>
		<link>http://blogs.fsfe.org/guido/2013/01/preparations-for-fosdem-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-4612</link>
		<dc:creator>Henrik Sandklef</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2013 17:08:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah. Your morning/sleeping habits don&#039;t match a father&#039;s</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah. Your morning/sleeping habits don&#8217;t match a father&#8217;s</p>
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		<title>Comment on Preparations for !FOSDEM (part 2) by guido</title>
		<link>http://blogs.fsfe.org/guido/2013/01/preparations-for-fosdem-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-4604</link>
		<dc:creator>guido</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2013 22:16:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Got me here. The actual reason why I don&#039;t plan to attend your talk is that I don&#039;t know if I can make it to the venue that early ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Got me here. The actual reason why I don&#8217;t plan to attend your talk is that I don&#8217;t know if I can make it to the venue that early <img src='http://blogs.fsfe.org/guido/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on Preparations for !FOSDEM (part 2) by Henrik Sandklef</title>
		<link>http://blogs.fsfe.org/guido/2013/01/preparations-for-fosdem-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-4602</link>
		<dc:creator>Henrik Sandklef</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2013 19:34:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aha.. bad excuse.  Willl you have a beer to compensate missing my talk?

     :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aha.. bad excuse.  Willl you have a beer to compensate missing my talk?</p>
<p>     <img src='http://blogs.fsfe.org/guido/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on Preparations for !FOSDEM (part 2) by guido</title>
		<link>http://blogs.fsfe.org/guido/2013/01/preparations-for-fosdem-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-4578</link>
		<dc:creator>guido</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2013 20:25:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, yes. As a non-programmer, I am not quite&lt;a href=&quot;https://fosdem.org/2013/schedule/event/searduino_arduino_simulator_and_c_devel_environment/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; in your target group&lt;/a&gt; I suppose.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, yes. As a non-programmer, I am not quite<a href="https://fosdem.org/2013/schedule/event/searduino_arduino_simulator_and_c_devel_environment/" rel="nofollow"> in your target group</a> I suppose.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Preparations for !FOSDEM (part 2) by Henrik Sandklef</title>
		<link>http://blogs.fsfe.org/guido/2013/01/preparations-for-fosdem-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-4570</link>
		<dc:creator>Henrik Sandklef</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2013 11:24:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh oh .... you&#039;re ignoring my talk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh oh &#8230;. you&#8217;re ignoring my talk.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Skolelinux pilot in Rhineland Palatinate  &#8211; Lessons learned by Marko Dimjašević</title>
		<link>http://blogs.fsfe.org/guido/2012/11/skolelinux-pilot-in-rhineland-palatinate-lessons-learned/comment-page-1/#comment-4417</link>
		<dc:creator>Marko Dimjašević</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2012 14:58:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Guido: My concern is not under what conditions companies agree to make profit in the project, but the point of schools not having control over their machines. In other words, it seems to me that someone in the project got the idea of free software completely wrong from the very beginning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Guido: My concern is not under what conditions companies agree to make profit in the project, but the point of schools not having control over their machines. In other words, it seems to me that someone in the project got the idea of free software completely wrong from the very beginning.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Skolelinux pilot in Rhineland Palatinate  &#8211; Lessons learned by drGspot</title>
		<link>http://blogs.fsfe.org/guido/2012/11/skolelinux-pilot-in-rhineland-palatinate-lessons-learned/comment-page-1/#comment-4415</link>
		<dc:creator>drGspot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2012 22:11:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...we had a similar initiative called &quot;Menta&quot; here in .hr
...the idea is to put school educational standard inside of a localised ubuntu based distro, not too heavy for older comuters..:

http://2010.slobodnifestival.info/program/menta-live-dvd-primjena-u-nastavi-radionica-za-nastavnike-silvia-kolaric-i-vinko-prelac/

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&quot;Menta&quot; Live DVD - use in teaching (workshops for teachers) - Silvia Kolaric and Vinko Prelac

Sense of the &quot;Menta&#039;s&quot; first steps to facilitate teachers in the use of open source software in teaching. We thoroughly analyzed the curriculum of informatics and select the most suitable software for its implementation. We have created a live distribution based on Ubuntu operating system, which is equipped with all the necessary software for the successful implementation of computer science to the prescribed curriculum and program.
We know that it is crucial for all teachers to demonstrate the benefits and ease of use of open source software, so the majority of activities in the implementation of projects aimed at informing Mint teachers.
At the workshop we will create several curriculum topics using exclusive distribution Mint, and the corresponding software. Since the formatting of text, making prezantacija and spreadsheets with OpenOffice already quite well known, we will be less well known areas such as sound design, paintings, film and web site programming and use of open source software in teaching other subjects - mathematics, chemistry, geography and history.


Silvia Kolarić
BMath (computing), a professor of mathematics and computer science, both graduated from the Faculty of Science - Department of Mathematics, Zagreb
She currently works as a science teacher.
2 comments to &quot;Mint Live DVD - use in teaching (workshops for teachers) - Silvia Kolaric and Vinko Prelac&quot;

    drGspot says:
    16.06.2010. at 16:38

    bravo!

    I see you managed to ...

    I just disagree classroom for a subset OpenEcdl ...
    We could call it ... MiniOpenEcdl

    when I start with the course, it would be interesting to discuss stronger and reintroduction instigaciji about open source ECDL in public Hr ...

    http://wiki.razmjenavjestina.org/index.php/OpenInfWorkshop

    http://e-knjiznica.carnet.hr/e-knjige/os-ecdl

    SBS</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;we had a similar initiative called &#8220;Menta&#8221; here in .hr<br />
&#8230;the idea is to put school educational standard inside of a localised ubuntu based distro, not too heavy for older comuters..:</p>
<p><a href="http://2010.slobodnifestival.info/program/menta-live-dvd-primjena-u-nastavi-radionica-za-nastavnike-silvia-kolaric-i-vinko-prelac/" rel="nofollow">http://2010.slobodnifestival.info/program/menta-live-dvd-primjena-u-nastavi-radionica-za-nastavnike-silvia-kolaric-i-vinko-prelac/</a></p>
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googleTranslate:<br />
&#8220;Menta&#8221; Live DVD &#8211; use in teaching (workshops for teachers) &#8211; Silvia Kolaric and Vinko Prelac</p>
<p>Sense of the &#8220;Menta&#8217;s&#8221; first steps to facilitate teachers in the use of open source software in teaching. We thoroughly analyzed the curriculum of informatics and select the most suitable software for its implementation. We have created a live distribution based on Ubuntu operating system, which is equipped with all the necessary software for the successful implementation of computer science to the prescribed curriculum and program.<br />
We know that it is crucial for all teachers to demonstrate the benefits and ease of use of open source software, so the majority of activities in the implementation of projects aimed at informing Mint teachers.<br />
At the workshop we will create several curriculum topics using exclusive distribution Mint, and the corresponding software. Since the formatting of text, making prezantacija and spreadsheets with OpenOffice already quite well known, we will be less well known areas such as sound design, paintings, film and web site programming and use of open source software in teaching other subjects &#8211; mathematics, chemistry, geography and history.</p>
<p>Silvia Kolarić<br />
BMath (computing), a professor of mathematics and computer science, both graduated from the Faculty of Science &#8211; Department of Mathematics, Zagreb<br />
She currently works as a science teacher.<br />
2 comments to &#8220;Mint Live DVD &#8211; use in teaching (workshops for teachers) &#8211; Silvia Kolaric and Vinko Prelac&#8221;</p>
<p>    drGspot says:<br />
    16.06.2010. at 16:38</p>
<p>    bravo!</p>
<p>    I see you managed to &#8230;</p>
<p>    I just disagree classroom for a subset OpenEcdl &#8230;<br />
    We could call it &#8230; MiniOpenEcdl</p>
<p>    when I start with the course, it would be interesting to discuss stronger and reintroduction instigaciji about open source ECDL in public Hr &#8230;</p>
<p>    <a href="http://wiki.razmjenavjestina.org/index.php/OpenInfWorkshop" rel="nofollow">http://wiki.razmjenavjestina.org/index.php/OpenInfWorkshop</a></p>
<p>    <a href="http://e-knjiznica.carnet.hr/e-knjige/os-ecdl" rel="nofollow">http://e-knjiznica.carnet.hr/e-knjige/os-ecdl</a></p>
<p>    SBS</p>
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		<title>Comment on Skolelinux pilot in Rhineland Palatinate  &#8211; Lessons learned by guido</title>
		<link>http://blogs.fsfe.org/guido/2012/11/skolelinux-pilot-in-rhineland-palatinate-lessons-learned/comment-page-1/#comment-4414</link>
		<dc:creator>guido</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2012 22:08:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Marko: As I understood it, the companies only agree to provide support if they know that nobody else is able to mess with the system.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Marko: As I understood it, the companies only agree to provide support if they know that nobody else is able to mess with the system.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Skolelinux pilot in Rhineland Palatinate  &#8211; Lessons learned by Marko Dimjašević</title>
		<link>http://blogs.fsfe.org/guido/2012/11/skolelinux-pilot-in-rhineland-palatinate-lessons-learned/comment-page-1/#comment-4413</link>
		<dc:creator>Marko Dimjašević</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2012 20:44:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see I could be asking at the wrong place, but what&#039;s the point of installing free software in schools if schools don&#039;t have control over it, but some private companies do instead?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see I could be asking at the wrong place, but what&#8217;s the point of installing free software in schools if schools don&#8217;t have control over it, but some private companies do instead?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Skolelinux pilot in Rhineland Palatinate  &#8211; Lessons learned by Luca Ferroni</title>
		<link>http://blogs.fsfe.org/guido/2012/11/skolelinux-pilot-in-rhineland-palatinate-lessons-learned/comment-page-1/#comment-4399</link>
		<dc:creator>Luca Ferroni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2012 06:53:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bottom-up approach should be balanced with top-down approach. Each kind of approach has its own limits, and it is our due to balance them and get the best as we can from the sinergy of both.

Thanks for the report. Reading it I don&#039;t think it is a failure, is gained experience on some aspects.</description>
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<p>Thanks for the report. Reading it I don&#8217;t think it is a failure, is gained experience on some aspects.</p>
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